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the antichrist is coming. convert or kill?

Conduct physical & spiritual warfare - NYC, think holocaust. spiritual warfare? ain't that just like the fundamentalists?

and you have to love their image for the "peacekeepers":

ah, perhaps they are taking lessons from the US military....

"Gamers (typically males from age 13-34) are going to love the deep strategic gameplay. " sexist. oh, but wait, their women are at home having babies, cooking dinner, cleaning the house and holding bible study. no time to play, i guess.

"The storyline in the game begins just after the Rapture has occurred – when all adult Christians, all infants, and many children were instantly swept home to Heaven and off the Earth by God. The remaining population – those who were left behind – are then poised to make a decision at some point. They cannot remain neutral. Their choice is to either join the AntiChrist – which is an imposturous one world government seeking peace for all of mankind, or they may join the Tribulation Force – which seeks to expose the truth and defend themselves against the forces of the AntiChrist."
many children? why were some left behind? how cruel.
i know which side i am on ...

"Does the violence depicted in the game run contrary to Jesus’ message on “love your enemy”?
Absolutely not. Christians are quite clearly taught to turn the other cheek and to love their enemies. It is equally true that no one should forfeit their lives to an aggressor who is bent on inflicting death.
ah-ha....unless that is aggressor is christian!!! then submit!

i had to order it.....it is online too and i sense a great sociological study.



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Dec. 7th, 2006 03:31 am (UTC)
"many children? why were some left behind? how cruel."

The beliefs of Christianity define that children will be punished for the sins of their fathers and so-on, "no one is born without sin." According to generalized Christian belief, you're guilty as soon as you're born, basically, sin passed from parent to child all the way back to Adam and Eve.

Or so I've always been told by those who believe such things.

That could possibly explain the reasoning, however, for why only "some" and not "all" of the children were taken. Being naive or ignorant of the "need for repentance" is not excuse enough in the eyes of the Christian god according to their general teachings (from studying the view points of Catholics and Lutherans, I can't speak for all faiths that would denote themselves as "Christian," and my knowledge of their beliefs comes from previous experience with the church, their school systems, bible passages, and their own worshippers).

Just an outsiders viewpoint of the justification for it, however. Food for thought.
Dec. 7th, 2006 04:07 am (UTC)
i was raised catholic (i am recovering quite well) and all children went to heaven (well, since limbo vanished).
i thought christianity had an age of accountability?
perhaps it differs for fundamentalists...
oh don't give ideas for more research! i have been playing around with the general social survey, bible, god and fundamentalism since i found this game.
Dec. 7th, 2006 04:40 am (UTC)
Raised Lutheran here, though I had contact with Catholics and a couple other factions of Christianity. I adhere to nothing nowadays save for what I see humanity itself doing in the world.

Perhaps the beliefs I dealt with were more those of one individual and not the entire religion (but what is religion if not an incredibly personal set of beliefs that one uses to justify existence and actions? I always thought "teaching" religion was a horrible thing). Unfortunately, they pretty much preached (where I was brought up) that you were guilty the moment you were conceived/brought into this world. The bible itself does indeed have a passage that says the children will suffer for the sins of their fathers, as well, I'll look it up in my NIV if I can find it (I've not read anything from it since I was last required to do so). So I suppose it depends how literal one takes it (or perhaps it was moreso meant to be a reference to the fact that, according to the bible, humanity was banished from paradise -- Eden -- because of Adam and Eve's sins, thus everyone was punished for their ancestors' mistake?).


From the book of Exodus (20:5), referrencing the Ten Commandments...

"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me..."


Maybe he's saying he'll only punish the children of "pagans" and non-believers? But at the same time, if they're children and simply taught a different set of beliefs, the ideal that being naive of Christianity's ways or completely ignorant makes you a sinner. How sad.

Dec. 7th, 2006 04:50 am (UTC)
there is something in deuteronomy about all children going to heaven or to the lord or something of such, i don't recall where.
if there were a heaven, i would want to believe all children went there.
but, this just affirms the violence of the bible and fundamentalists.
Dec. 7th, 2006 04:59 am (UTC)
I most certainly can't argue that the bible contradicts itself left and right at times. I've come across arguements for both cases, though I'm personally inclined to believe that God definitely isn't fair, if it even exists (I'm also inclined to believe the world isn't very fair, either, as I've seen good things happen to horrible people and bad things happen to good people who lived, by society's standards, moral lives).

An interesting read -- http://members.aol.com/twarren13/account.html

Though I would say that's definitely just someone's opinion of the bible.

Ultimately, belief comes down to one thing (in my opinion), and that's interpretation of events (past or present).

I'd most certainly like to think that if there is a heaven, children end up there, as well as animals and other creatures (mentally handicapped adults for example) not necessarily capable of understanding the entire concept of sin and morality.

Then again, I don't really believe in God... But it's a nice thought that there might be something "better" after this stage of existence.

The only belief I solidly adhere to is that energy never really "dies," or ceases to exist, as energy from my understanding only changes forms. If humans are to be viewed as energy (a soul, whatever someone wants to call it), it HAS to eventually end up somewhere rather than just completely disappearing upon death. Here's to hoping wherever "somewhere" is happens to be a safe place.

Dec. 7th, 2006 05:05 am (UTC)
Other verses.
For the other verses you mentioned;

Deuteronomy (24:16)

Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin.

Ezekiel (18:20)

The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.


Eh, definitely seems to be up to the reader which verses they take to heart. Some say the children are not punished for their father's sins, and others clearly say they are.
Dec. 7th, 2006 05:24 am (UTC)
Re: Other verses.
ah, thanks for the verses. i'll look (eventually) for the deuteronomy one i was thinking of....that isn't it, it is something about the lord speaking, telling all the children to come to him. maybe it is another chapter. who knows, it has been a loooong time.
meanwhile, i am still knee deep in religion finishing up a final project for tomorrow about why i believe fundamentalists have higher fertility rates and backing it up with data. i guess it is ok though since their children will go to heaven.
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